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Post by jal on May 28, 2014 18:26:18 GMT
Wait until the Islamic's for Alla Party take over, with the first Islamic Prime Minister of Britain proclaiming the abandamant of the British and EU Laws and replacing them with Sharia-Law. This could happen in less than 30years if we just sit back and ignore it. You have been warned  |
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Post by uncleub on May 28, 2014 18:59:47 GMT
Peter,FFS........... ITS NOT GOING TO HAPPENPhil you're not really being uncertain about this are you? The results of the EU elections seem throw doubt on your "It's not going happen" proclamation. I hope you'll be as quick to acknowledge me when I can write Phil I told you so. It's not going to happen with Cameron at the helm, he's all talk and no action. |
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Post by Ratae on May 28, 2014 19:55:04 GMT
Harrumph! Let's nail this bollox that Smudger spouts once and for all. Smudger gives the impression, that all Posh Dave needs to do, is rock up to the commission and demand a few treaty changes that suit the UK, which I remind you, was not even one of the original signatories to the treaty. Well, here are the FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES on which the EU is founded/ THE FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES
Article I-4 of the Constitution guarantees the free movement of persons, goods, services and capital within the Union (the famous "four freedoms") and strictly prohibits any discrimination on grounds of nationality.
Assuming (I know it's a stretch) that Smudger knows what "the free movement" means, HTF can anyone belief that the other members are gonna scrap one of the 'FUNDAMENTAL' principles of the union,just to appease us?  Smudger....it ain't gonna happen, never, no way, not anyhow!  |
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Post by jal on May 28, 2014 20:35:49 GMT
You've made that difficult David by explaining it in too many words, it has to be simpler than that  |
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Post by petersmyth1 on May 29, 2014 0:13:09 GMT
You've made that difficult David by explaining it in too many words, it has to be simpler than that Guys I know it'll be a hell of a fight to reform the FUNDAMENTAL PRINCIPLES on which the EU is founded but that happened 50 odd years ago and there have been major economic and population changes since the TREATY of ROME was drawn up. Owing to these changes and the growing support for both extreme left an right wing anti EU parties in the member states only brain dead MEPs would say ignore it and it will go away. The leaders know if they do nothing to try to heal the soon to be rift the present EU will slowly disintegrate. Why can our drinkers not see that we don't have to leave the EU to get all our powers back because if the EU is to survive as a trading market it will have to tie the Brussels parliament into dealing only with EU affairs and then handing back to their members all the powers they stole and let each country govern it's self which I suppose is the death knell for the euro as we know it today. Ratarse for the record much and all as I think Cameron is an "EU" supporter that in my opinion would not outweigh his wanting the UK to be in charge of it's own national government and how you think differently surprises me. Can you see any Tory government "selling" the UK en bloc to foreign powers? |
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Post by Geoff on May 29, 2014 5:12:20 GMT
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Post by petersmyth1 on May 29, 2014 5:43:15 GMT
Geoff there's every possibility UKIP will win it because it is a by-election and that's always a good place for protest votes and if they do win it then all that will do is remind the 2 main parties of what the EU elections did and tell them they must get the UK's powers back from Brussels. |
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Post by Geoff on May 29, 2014 5:51:28 GMT
Trouble is Peter the Tories have a 16.000 majority.
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Post by Ratae on May 29, 2014 7:23:51 GMT
Geoff there's every possibility UKIP will win it because it is a by-election and that's always a good place for protest votes and if they do win it then all that will do is remind the 2 main parties of what the EU elections did and tell them they must get the UK's powers back from Brussels.   Drowning...not waving. |
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Post by Ratae on May 29, 2014 7:34:52 GMT
Ahem!
1.....What he wants and what he gets, are not the same thing!
2....I think differently 'cos by the grace of God, I'm English. And therefore, am genetically superior to all other races. It's a cross that us Anglos have to bear.
2....Smudger, google 'Ted Heath' 1973 (I can't be arsed)
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Post by petersmyth1 on May 29, 2014 10:04:33 GMT
2....Smudger, google 'Ted Heath' 1973 (I can't be arsed) Ratarse I thought you had a brain, even half a brain would know what the UK joined in 1973 under E Heath and what EU is now are miles apart. Heath took us into the EEC, European Economic Community, ie the Common Market and let's get this straight ratarse, are you saying the EEC was the same as our present day EU? If not stop linking the 2 the in context you're implying.  |
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Post by arch on May 29, 2014 10:34:43 GMT
It's all out between Nige and that French tart to get as many Euro sceptics to join a political group. Even though UKIP have said they won't join with the French far right, the Frogs have put a free trade ban with the Yanks on their agenda  tinyurl.com/nutzsa8 |
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Post by arch on May 29, 2014 13:01:51 GMT
Well well, would you adam and eve. Is Posh growing a pair, nah! 'tis the UKIP shadow forcing his hand  tinyurl.com/ofbumvd |
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Post by Ratae on May 29, 2014 13:10:06 GMT
2....Smudger, google 'Ted Heath' 1973 (I can't be arsed) Ratarse I thought you had a brain, even half a brain would know what the UK joined in 1973 under E Heath and what EU is now are miles apart. Heath took us into the EEC, European Economic Community, ie the Common Market and let's get this straight ratarse, are you saying the EEC was the same as our present day EU? If not stop linking the 2 the in context you're implying. Oi Lame Brain, I'm perfectly aware of what it was CALLED in 1973, I'm also aware of what it's long term aims were in 1973 and have now almost been achieved. Smudger...haven't you got some Leggo or summat to play with, a crayoning book perhaps. If you haven't, pray tell, then I'll send you my 5yrs old grandaughters, she's grown out of it anyway!  |
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Post by Ratae on May 29, 2014 13:21:02 GMT
Well well, would you adam and eve. Is Posh growing a pair, nah! 'tis the UKIP shadow forcing his hand tinyurl.com/ofbumvdArch, behave. He's just pulling a fast one. He couldn't grow a pair of sideburns, never mind owt else. For chrisake..I only out this up a few posts back..."EU budget – Nice: Unanimity; Lisbon: QMV" From November...it won't matter what he sez 'NO' to, he'll have no veto! |
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