Ratae's completely unofficial YCNMTU thread!

[banjo]

She's likely going to Bronsfield which is but a dog walk from here. Ironic that the recent inquest into the death of a baby in that very institution slammed the prison officer Mark Johnson for failing to follow The Prison's 10 or 15 minute observation regime. I read that the alarm intercom had been turned off, but it's not clear to me whether it was actually him who was responsible for that, but- well, you know? The irony is that he was allegedly responsible for the chain of events which saw that baby die at the very same institution where Lucy Letby will likely be incarcerated, yet did he get taken to trial for the death of a child? I have no idea of the complexities of the investigation into Lucy Letby, but from my cursory searches I've not been aware of an actual smoking gun, and what I have read just seems to add up to the balance of probabilities rather than beyond reasonable doubt. Obviously I'm a poorly informed armchair commentator and I accept that, but how many other similar pundits have "thrust their hands into the wounds" in this case? Best Beloved said she'd read they'd found self-deprecating notes in her bedroom. Hmm. I read a BBC transcript of that and there was no obvious mea culpa that I could see.

We've all been aware of a number of miscarriages of justice within our legal system starting from my memory of "Let him have it Craig", and only just recently there was that man who served nearly twenty years for a crime that suppressed evidence would have put the conviction into question?

Inevitably, there will always be a number of promo focused rank and filers who will cheerfully grasp at anything to cross Tee-s and dot I-s and secure a conviction. It's human nature you know, but I've heard just about enough of it. Each time, we get a re-grouping, attempt at restoration of public confidence and management of the situation, but all they ever really do is tread water and buy that great healer, time. The fish 'n' chip paper gambit. The Police are not alone in this tactic so I won't wag my finger at them, but how many times are we going to see this charade played out? I sincerely hope that they've not dropped the ball again with this one, unintentionallly or deliberately, because joint and several liability diluted by time is the standard curative. All that said, assuming she is the foul bitch of the moment, let her rot I say.

As for Soonwhack's knee-jerk legislation to force convicted offenders to attend sentencing; what good does that actually serve? It's not going to give any closure to victims in my view. Once the verdict has been given, it just turns it into a circus. Perhaps he'd consider bringing back the stocks too? Ah, wait a minute- an election looming of course- "the party of law and order"- set out the traditional stall of feldegarb and find some clear blue water in what has become a farcical pantomime of yah boo trash.

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[nob]

Just seen the new advert on TikTok targeting north African young men. Showing our young lasses drunk and scantily clad, Maybe Saudi has the answer after all. Sweden was the rape capital of Europe. We will be in months.

[egg]

Steve,
after a 10 month trial I would have thought that no stone had been left unturned in the Letby case.
The Police are investigating another 12 cases.
There's no smoke without fire IMHO

[banjo]

That's right Glen. Then again, now that the case is closed they are investigating her previous employment. After ten months of a trial, that's not what I call "no stone left unturned" so why only now? Could it have prejudiced a fair outcome to the trial perhaps?

Then again, in the real world we all know you're right Glen. I was making a wider point about miscarriages of justice (which are far from being unknown) and observing that I hope they've got it right on this occasion. Like the other guy just recently, it's a flippin' long time to be banged up. What do you say to people like him? How do you finger someone for obfuscating evidence from two decades back? Something's wrong with the system which is one aspect of the ten gallon hat sh1t stirrer's motive, the other being money of course.

Odd how we got rid of capital punishment and replaced it with convict suicide watch to prevent lifers from doing everyone a favour as well as themselves?

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[nob]

Maybe our police should take notice.

[banjo]

Oh that's just so heartening to watch!

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[duyuthinkysaurus]

The answer to these eco nuts is SNOWPLOUGHS.

[banjo]

youtu.be/qji73u4ryPI?feature=shared

There was a poll beneath the video when I watched it concerning whether or not you support the government's plan to install net zero (sic) heat pumps in place of boilers. Of course they don't highlight who is going to pay for them in that click bait. Now let me see? Hmmm ... I wonder how the government's plan will be bank rolled? After they've collated the survey results, the government will be able to say that their plan to install yadda yadda yadda was supported by (let's say for example) 78% of those that responded, and our brain dead lemming representatives of The Proletariate will, without a second thought, rubber stamp that in to law. I despair of these feckwits all following the party whip. As for you all-things-green morons- poke it. We don't need any more blindly accepting religions.

Breathe Hippy, breathe. Ahhh.

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[nob]

Heat pumps don't work, but you pay @£10,000

[banjo]

Deep bore heat pumps work. Air sourced ones are at best questionable. I attained HND in Environmental Engineering at what was then Polytechnic of the South Bank (Borough Road.) Back then that was a poor man's / Polytechnic degree. It was principally concerned with thermo dynamics, fluid flow and heat transfer, but it incorporated everything concerning a building's internal environment, stretching to include lighting and sewage.

There is heat in everything that is above absolute zero, the question is whether it can be made viable to extract it and deploy it accordingly. Heat pumps were on the scene but were a bit space age back when I was a student. I wouldn't invest in a glorified fridge bolted onto the back wall of the house- the fan driven air flow rate and the compressor would place a significant demand for electricity to extract the residual heat recovery, meaning that below let's say 5 Celcius, you're p1551ng against the wind, although I imagine the sales teams would have a different angle on it, certainly forty-odd yesrs on. I'm not sure at my age whether I'd ever recoup the investment in a suitable bore hole either, so me investing in that for another entitled gonad to reap the dividends is a bit of a non-starter too. "We're all doo-o-omed."

'Fess up time- the qualy was worth little if you didn't (or couldn't) see out a couple of years at a relevant company, which used to be a requirement to apply for licenciate membership of the appropriate professional body. I couldn't so I didn't. Fish 'n' chip paper. History.

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[nob]

All this green stuff is nonsense to me, its all a money making racket. Osbornes Mrs was a big supplier of wind turbines, from then on its always been dodgy for me.

[banjo]

I wouldn't generalise like that, but in principle I tend to agree. The trouble with all things "green" for me is that these idiots just turn it into another religion where green is good everything else is bad. They take on board every little thing that has a whiff of green and unquestioningly evangelise it "because it is written" or "because it is said". I have no time for them.

I saw a YouTube video where some squarehead (I think it was?) had concreted his hand into the road, probably a convenient pothole? The canny authorities carefully chipped around his hand and sent him off on his way with a heavy club fist. Moron.

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[banjo]

Good news- the victims of the Post Office software b4llsup can have 2/3 million each just for the asking. Those that are still drawing breath of course.

Bad news- like any company, the non-entity is blamed, and the perps walk away scot free, whether within or as employees of the software writing house. Comes under the mantle of limited liability.

Worse news- the compo doesn't eventually cost RM anything because as anyone can see, RM prices go up way over the already ruinous inflation rate that is our reward for thirteen years of torrid austerity. (sic)

Unpalatably evil news- taxpayers' money is to be used for this purpose too, while those spineless faceless scrotes melt into obscurity and plan their next raft of price increases and "efficiencies".

Oh, here's another jolly ruse- invalidate most of the legacy paid for stamps held by individuals and organisations, and while you're at it- erect veiled hurdles for those determined few trying to exchange them for new (and inevitably expiring) replacements.

And another- unofficially reduce daily deliveries to a couple each week and then bulk deliver held mail. Really Hippie? Well I buy quite a bit online, but for at least the last year we've only seen our postie a couple of times each week, and then he's usually weighed down with Jiffy bags, parcels, bills and pizza junk mail. We only know "there's no post today", so how can we be reassured that my cynical jibe is not actually a recent obfuscated unofficial Royal Mail "policy"?

Wahey! Why not send folks on a circular repetitious ring of websites when trying to communicate with The Company because something has gone awry (as if that could ever happen ...)

Another good one- refuse to interact with the intended recipents of lost mail, instead force the hapless tw4ts to try to take it up with disinterested senders who know right well how to play that game- another Catch22.

Royal Mail you do absolutely stink.

Is it not time for the Royal Warrant to be withdrawn from The Royal Mail.

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[nob]

Its not enough for what they went through. How someone didn't pick up whats the chance of all those post masters stealing all at once.

[nob]

I see that the end of petrol and diesel car production is pushed back to 2035, I watched a prog about 999 ambulances last night, how on earth are they going to be electric??? Its barking mad all this green nonsense and its costing us a fortune.