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Post by tuftedduck on Jun 11, 2014 10:51:45 GMT
I wonder if some kind soul could help with a problem.
The C drive on my XP machine ceased to function after giving out some loud clicking noises....and I cannot access anything on that machine (surprise surprise)
I installed a brand new drive, correctly configured and connected, and have been trying for four days now to reinstall XP from an unused CD with a valid product key.
No luck...just a series of error reports.
I gave up today and have bought a new machine with Win7 64bit which will arrive tomorrow.
My old machine had a slave drive which I think is still working and which has all my data onboard, and my plan is to put that into a usb connected caddy.
My question is.....the files on that slave were written there in a 32 bit system (XP) on ide drives.....will a 64bit (WIN7) system using sata drives be able to access and read these file (normal data and image files)
Also, should I leave the jumpers on that drive as slave.
Thank you in advance for any comments.
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Post by nob on Jun 11, 2014 11:21:57 GMT
Hi TD,
I've had results at work from tapping a drive it then worked so if there is anything on the old drive you want try that you never know.
Make sure the caddy you get is IDE to suit the old slave drive. IIR you set it as master usually removing all jumpers I fitted one in a caddy a few years ago. They do both sata and IDE caddies so check before you order. I think i paid about twelve quid for mine.
Windows will read the files ok.
On the drive you fitted did you format and partition it in disk management before installing XP on it.
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Post by tuftedduck on Jun 11, 2014 11:44:35 GMT
Hi, nob, and thank you for your informative reply. I have just put that slave drive into the caddy and can read the files fine on this little Vista laptop, so it is at least connected up properly and working. Woohoo....  I don't understand how to format/partition a new drive if you cannot get into the system.....even during the setup process I did not get that option.  .........all I was getting is "error oxoooooo7b" and the instruction to shut down the machine. Not to worry....I have my data.....just hope now that my 32bit programs will be ok on a 64 bit system. I think they should be. Thanks again for your comments. |
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Post by nob on Jun 11, 2014 11:47:43 GMT
They will be fine, you'll be impressed with 7 and the speed of a 64 bit system.  |
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Post by petersmyth1 on Jun 11, 2014 14:52:16 GMT
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Post by tuftedduck on Jun 12, 2014 7:34:24 GMT
Thank you for your further comments.
Critical error indeed. I am not sure if a broken c drive caused this error, or if the error broke the disc, or indeed if two seperate issues occurred at the same time.
This error report seems to cover a multitude of sins from a boot sector virus to a defunct processor and everything in between.
Will enjoy my new machine when it comes and continue now and again to try and repair the old one just for the fun of it.
Thanks again.
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Post by Ratae on Jun 12, 2014 7:43:10 GMT
Thank you for your further comments. Critical error indeed. I am not sure if a broken c drive caused this error, or if the error broke the disc, or indeed if two seperate issues occurred at the same time. This error report seems to cover a multitude of sins from a boot sector virus to a defunct processor and everything in between. Will enjoy my new machine when it comes and continue now and again to try and repair the old one just for the fun of it. Thanks again. Ratae to Tufted Duck......if you do manage to revive the old drive, give Linux a thought!  We have a convoy!  |
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Post by banjo on Jun 12, 2014 8:42:31 GMT
You should be able to partition a fixed disk using "fdisk" from a win 98 boot disk, or from "disk management" in a working system using a caddy (or simply a universal usb adapter.) If you have never used a command line / dos, then now would not be a good scenario in which to start so disk management is the way to go. IIRC, XP doesn't install sata drivers, so if your old outfit was serial ata then you may have been missing the correct drivers to allow it to access the drive. On old IDE systems it could even be something as silly as switching back to a 40 conductor IDE cable from an 80 conductor IDE cable (old budget ECS mobos!)
I just rescued someone's lappy fixed disk by putting it in an evacuated sealed food bag in the freezer for a couple of hours. Dissimilar metals expanding and contracting at different rates freed up the stuck read head long enough to rescue his piccies! You have to let it come up to room temperature before opening the bag though! This has a low success rate IMO...
Thank goodness your data was on a separate disk. If you get happy with partitioning, shrink the IDE connected data drive and create a new partition just for your swap file. That way you can eliminate the swap file from becomming fragmented and no more "files that cannot be moved" when defragging. Sorry if this is too much, I'm just thinking. out loud...
e&oe
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Post by Ratae on Jun 12, 2014 12:04:11 GMT
Well, I'm not sure if this has any relevance to the problem posted here, 'cos I am far from being an expert, but many moons ago I slip streamed the SATA driver into an old XP boot disc, using this method > tinyurl.com/9ov9p8bJust in case it's any help. 
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Post by banjo on Jun 12, 2014 12:28:12 GMT
Yep. Just like you slipstream service packs. I've had to do it with netbooks having no optical drive. Slipstreaming a SATA driver seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me unless you intend to do it over and over again, but good point well made D. I'm not a gambler, but I do suspect a missing SATA driver here.
e&oe
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Post by Ratae on Jun 12, 2014 13:24:32 GMT
Yep. Just like you slipstream service packs. I've had to do it with netbooks having no optical drive. Slipstreaming a SATA driver seems like a sledgehammer to crack a nut to me unless you intend to do it over and over again, but good point well made D. I'm not a gambler, but I do suspect a missing SATA driver here. e&oe Well, when I did it it was 'cos the XP boot disc had been made for machines with an IDE controller, and the lappy that I was wanting to put XP on (for a pal) had an SATA controller. Also slipstreamed XP SP3 while I was at it. Wondering what type of controller is on that machine of Tufty's? |
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Post by nob on Jun 12, 2014 16:14:28 GMT
Reading the original post I think they are IDE drives both slave and master. The new PC he's ordered has SATA.
I'm wondering if its an upgrade disk and not a full xp disk.
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Post by Ratae on Jun 12, 2014 17:56:19 GMT
Reading the original post I think they are IDE drives both slave and master. The new PC he's ordered has SATA. I'm wondering if its an upgrade disk and not a full xp disk. I think all new machines are SATA Nob. |
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Post by nob on Jun 12, 2014 18:13:53 GMT
Reading the original post I think they are IDE drives both slave and master. The new PC he's ordered has SATA. I'm wondering if its an upgrade disk and not a full xp disk. I think all new machines are SATA Nob. SATA 3 now I believe. Faster. |
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Post by tuftedduck on Jun 13, 2014 8:43:41 GMT
Thank you all again for your ongoing comments, and please accept my apologies for this slow reply.
If it ok with you all, I am going to bed now...not feeling atall well, and will post back again tomorrow.
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.........all I was getting is "error oxoooooo7b" and the instruction to shut down the machine.
