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Post by Ratae on Jan 20, 2016 13:33:41 GMT
T'other night I watched a film called 'The Big Short' . It's about the 2008 financial crash. Although the film is a black comedy, it's based on fact and is very informative about how these crashes happen. What does appear to be obvious from the film, is that even the experts don't really understand wtf is going on. I recommend the film, it should be out on cinemas soon.
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Jan 20, 2016 14:55:00 GMT
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Post by arch on Jan 20, 2016 15:32:17 GMT
Copied and pasted from a posting on another debating site.....please all share and spread it far and wide.... David Cameron has decided to bring back “Project Fear” It worked well for the “Better Together” campaign, when fighting the Scottish referendum Then the plan of “Project Fear” was to frighten the undecided Scots, by pointing out the very real economic problems that an Independent Scotland would face.
This time round, instead of the economy, “Project Fear” will be about Safety & Security; trying to frighten the “Undecideds,” by telling them that somehow we are all safer and more secure within the EU.
That got me thinking about “Fear”
And I had a light-bulb moment
I realised that it is the Government that is frightened.
They want us to be scared about leaving the EU But it’s them; they are the ones that are scared about leaving
They are actually frightened about Brexit. They are frightened of suddenly being totally accountable.
None of them have ever experienced true parliamentary democracy
They don’t know what National Sovereignty actually is, because they’ve never experienced that either.
They have never had to make decisions as a Government on its own, without Big Brother’s help.
Not one member of the cabinet has ever served in a UK Government that has had to make its own decisions. Not many of them will even remember a UK Government that did.
And that frightens them
Michael Fallon (63) and Ian Duncan Smith (62) were 20 & 18 respectively when we joined the EEC on 1st January 1973. The day Tony Benn described as, ““The most formal surrender of British sovereignty and parliamentary democracy that has ever occurred in our history.” David Cameron was 6 and George Osborne was 1 year & 7 months old. Liz Truss, Environment Secretary and Stephen Crabb, Secretary for Wales weren’t yet born.
Fallon & IDS are also the only two that were old enough to vote in the 1975 Referendum, on 5th June 1975. Fallon at 23 was a student activist on the “Yes” campaign, and the 21-year-old IDS was commissioned into the Scots Guards as a Second-Lieutenant, just three weeks after the referendum. Fallon is also the longest serving Cabinet member becoming an MP in 1983, 10 years after we joined the EEC, and surrendered our sovereignty and democracy. All but six ministers were first elected this century, to a parliament that had been without sovereignty and democracy for 30 years.
We complain about the lack of accountability within the Politburo and Courts of the EU, but really, while 75% of our laws are handed down from there, how accountable is our own government?
If anything goes wrong, “It’s Europe’s fault” and although it usually is, our government is always able to say, quite truthfully; “Our hands are tied by EU Laws, Regulations and Directives”
That’s why David Cameron, George Osbourne etc all are frightened; If we leave the EU, We will regain our national sovereignty and they, the UK Government alone will be responsible for our future. They, the UK Government will have to make the decisions. They, the UK Government will be fully accountable to the electorate, just as they should be.
And the prospect frightens them; That is their “Project Fear”
We really need to leave – ASAP VOTE TO LEAVE THE Leave.EU
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Jan 20, 2016 15:47:10 GMT
Thought provoking, Arch.
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Post by arch on Jan 20, 2016 16:15:41 GMT
Thought provoking, Arch. Yep I dunnow the original author but it's put together very well, hope we have success come voting time
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Jan 20, 2016 16:20:10 GMT
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Post by nob on Jan 20, 2016 16:48:11 GMT
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Post by Ratae on Jan 20, 2016 16:56:20 GMT
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Jan 20, 2016 16:57:08 GMT
At least they will not pollute these shores anymore.
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Post by Ratae on Jan 20, 2016 17:06:58 GMT
At least they will not pollute these shores anymore. Y'know me fellas, I'm a world class cynic. So....I'm cynically thinking that if, perhaps, maybe, those three girls had, like others, become disillusioned with life in the caliphate and wanted to return home, then had returned home. Well ... if they were assumed to be brown bread, there would be no point in the security services taking a sneaky look in their parents garden shed............would there? But eh!....I'm just an old cynic.
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Post by nob on Jan 26, 2016 17:45:15 GMT
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Jan 27, 2016 14:12:00 GMT
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Post by Geoff on Jan 27, 2016 14:34:55 GMT
It's been doing the rounds for a while.
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Post by nob on Jan 27, 2016 15:20:33 GMT
Not heard of that one, but I got one today from Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs saying I have a rebate to collect for overpaid tax. It contained a PDF file that you open then click on a link. The address was a random e-mail address and it wasn't from the tax office.
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Jan 27, 2016 15:31:46 GMT
That one has been around for a while usually get one about monthly.
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