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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 18:29:37 GMT
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Post by nob on Jan 13, 2021 16:04:39 GMT
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Post by banjo on Jan 13, 2021 21:55:15 GMT
Done one. Two to go.
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Post by alanrwood on Jan 14, 2021 9:40:39 GMT
Done 10.
Time taken varied between 20 mins and 13 hours so if it sticks at 20% or 74% just have patience as it will eventually complete. The average was about 45 mins.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 10:53:54 GMT
Took about 2 hours on this one, although it is an old PC.
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Post by nob on Jan 14, 2021 17:16:49 GMT
I need a new PC as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2021 17:46:10 GMT
Took about 2 hours on this one, although it is an old PC. Just over ten years ago since it was bought, and it was a budget one at the time. Broadband not all that fast either. |
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Post by banjo on Jan 18, 2021 22:52:03 GMT
That's the other two done.
The Compaq (my dedicated banking lappy) sailed through but the Dell Precision crapped out just as it was getting ready to run first time after the upgrade. I used the Microsoft website assistant and downloaded the big one. That advanced to install when I wasn't looking and I missed the "new install" or "keep old data" option. Not knowing what had happened I backed out thinking I could run it again. Nothing so simple- oh no, you have to download the whole shooting match again after cancelling. Go and wait in the "Far Queue" Sir ... It must load the update to a ramdisk which is purged on cancelling? They don't want you to be saving it? Third attempt eventually succeeded despite that I missed the choice dialogue again, but I'd lost the will to live by then. It took well over three hours. What a blast eh? ;<D
Time for a beer I think.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 0:04:59 GMT
That's the other two done. The Compaq (my dedicated banking lappy) sailed through but the Dell Precision crapped out just as it was getting ready to run first time after the upgrade. I used the Microsoft website assistant and downloaded the big one. That advanced to install when I wasn't looking and I missed the "new install" or "keep old data" option. Not knowing what had happened I backed out thinking I could run it again. Nothing so simple- oh no, you have to download the whole shooting match again after cancelling. Go and wait in the "Far Queue" Sir ... It must load the update to a ramdisk which is purged on cancelling? They don't want you to be saving it? Third attempt eventually succeeded despite that I missed the choice dialogue again, but I'd lost the will to live by then. It took well over three hours. What a blast eh? ;<D Time for a beer I think. e&oe ...Microsoft, eh ? Still; I have tried to use a Mac on odd occasions in the main library near me (most of the computers are PCs by the way). I won't be a convert yet though (not that impressed). |
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Post by banjo on Jan 19, 2021 8:53:48 GMT
We're an i-This i-That exclusion zone here. Never darken my door.
Yes I did just edit this meaningless post!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 10:48:06 GMT
The only Apple thing I ever liked using was an IIe, over thirty years ago.
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Post by banjo on Jan 19, 2021 13:15:30 GMT
I gave up on a Bristolian friend's recalcitrant Mac, I couldn't coax it back into life. Bloody odd mouse too. I once watched with glee while a mate from Shropshire gave up on his Mac, muttering curses and launched XP in a virtual machine on his Mac, just to read a memory stick FFS. Obviously rocket science ...Then there was an eBay card reader I bought that Windoze just refused to recognise. Turned out that it had been slipped into a Mac once and the idiotic machine had tattoo'd the little card reader's firmware, and it became a member of the no turning back group. I spent hours researching the cause but at least the seller refunded me instantly. Why would any machine flash a peripheral's firmware unless flesh and blood had actively instigated it? Absolute rubbish. It's not even Mac OS anymore- it's some tint of BSD Linux.
When it was still Mac OS, you couldn't just go to a computer fair and replace (say) a faulty CD drive, oh no, a visually identical drive for a Mac used to cost ten times what an i386 architecture variant cost. And every one just paid it with barely a question. No wonder the head honchos of Apple are so effin' rich.
Indisputably great hardware and supposedly very simple to use, but Oil give it the woide swerve thank you very much. I'd rather get to grips with Linux.
Have a nice day y'all!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 14:15:37 GMT
Yes, Macs are too expensive for what they are.
I also feel inclined to try Linux.
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Post by banjo on Jan 20, 2021 10:59:46 GMT
Giving Linux a spin was about my effort Matt, although I still want to get it together somehow. That's how much I think of Redmond's cattle steering kludge-fest.
Linux is very much about how much effort you have to put in to relearn everything, and how soon the enthusiasm metamorphoses into a damp squib. I had the basics going on Suse Linux version 6.x donkey's years ago except for sending eMails. Receive was OK. At that point your OOTB experience crumbles to the command line in a terminal. Yikes! Step by step is all very well but most of the time you could recognise parallels with Windoze albeit the dialogue boxes were somewhat different, but syntax syntax syntax- cripes. My next attempt was with Slackware. Like Debian (which is (or used to be) a form of BSD like Mac?) Slack is bereft of IP software and so appeals to me, but it should be my downfall really because you have to get down and dirty at the command prompt. I write here as one who is long enough in the toof to be comfortable in a "Dos Box". I had several abandoned attempts on an old clunker because I only got it to reach normal elevated "run level" once, and even that failed to start a second time. I'd still prefer to use Slackware despite what I've written because it forces you to learn what will become mandatory when you run into trouble with Linux.
To this day with Slackware you have to congifigure file system(s), partitions and so on by hand at a command prompt. Most other distros do it for you. One of our erstwhile vocal contributors on here uses (or used) Linux Mint, and I think that was because its mission statement is to be virtually indistinguishable from Bill's Bilge. I believe the smart money these days is with Ubuntu Matt. Happily these days Linux handles most hardware configurations straight off the bat and installation of software is becoming dead easy (except in Slackware!). The only possible gotcha is much loved software that won't play ball- even under a virtual machine in "Wine" (although that acronym name itself kind of rules out that statement.)
Slackware has its inspiration in "Slack" and "The Church of Sub-Genius". This is worth the time Googling if only to confirm that "They're out there. You can get ordained for a few bucks! Get in tune with "Pipe Puffing Bob" (or "The Bob-Head"). As I said- they're out there!
Food for thought?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2021 15:48:54 GMT
Maybe one day, I'll look into Linux. When I get around to it, and when I've got the resources. This PC will probably end up being replaced this year when my parents decide to get a new one, but I expect it will still struggle when trying to run the least resource-hungry distros. It struggles to run W10, hence the need for a replacement.
It's all well beyond my limited technical knowledge (and you definitely know far more than me about every area of computing), but it looks like fun anyway. It's not for everyone though. Things of course often don't just work 'out of the box', and it requires a lot of problem-solving skills in order to get things to work (so I've heard). Not for those of limited patience then. And people still need the likes of MS Office to work.
Having said that, I don't know if you've noticed on MajorGeeks, there's been absolutely loads of different distros posted recently (over about the last week or so), so obviously well into three figures all the various ones available.
(I have asked recently whether it'd be an idea to post a thread in the Linux board, listing all the releases made available via MajorGeeks, and other sites).
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