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Post by Ratae on Mar 13, 2017 15:23:36 GMT
I mean, throwing a tantrum is one thing but for chrissake, let's get things in the proper perspective!  Yep, it appears that just 'cos the Jocko rugby team rocked up at Twickers expecting to pee on England parade, then of course found themselves on the end of a good old Culloden type spanking, the Jocko first minister has gone and chucked all of her wee krankie type toys out of her pram and announced that she's gonna hold another Jocko Indy referendum. So there!  Well, as far as I'm concerned, any country that wants to be independent is perfectly entitled to hold a referendum, just like we did. But, it does seem a smidgeon OTT to do it just 'cos our brave, skillful and heroic rugby boys had yer kilts down on a rugby pitch. The thing with this type of referendum, is that however many times they have one, it only needs for it to be carried once and then the whole game changes. As far as I know, never has one country been divorced from another, then later changed it's mind when things go wrong and got back together, 'cos then, the rules change, both countries have to have referendums and to be honest, I doubt that the Scots would be welcomed back by us English, that's the vibes that I get from folks, anyway! Be careful what you wish for! Anyway, I expect my old pal Spit will have summat sensible to say about this 'cos he's closer to the vibes on that side of the wall, I'll look forward to reading his views.  |
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Post by pierre on Mar 13, 2017 15:39:59 GMT
Hope your team have "run out of steam"by Saturday,Dave.I doubt it.Could be that the Northern part of the Oul Sod might also seek a referendum to break with the English as well if you give us the same type of beating ! Can a team be too good so that opponents might opt out of competing with them ?  |
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Mar 13, 2017 15:55:32 GMT
I see the jockwitch is at it again.
My view, it she wants a second referendum, fine.
Just as long as the rest of us get a vote as to whether we want the snp bully boys to stay!
I resent the idea that the snp can dictate to the rest of the UK what to do.
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Post by nob on Mar 13, 2017 16:08:50 GMT
UKIP's Scottish MEP David Coburn: "The prospect of a second independence referendum between the Autumn of 2018 and the spring of 2019 is utterly preposterous. "The UK will still be in negotiations with the EU at this time – the SNP seem to wish to cause maximum disruption, uncertainty and overall mayhem. "In 2014 the Scottish people decided decisively to remain British, in 2016 less people voted to remain in the EU than voted to be British in 2014. "The SNP want to be “in control” not at the “mercy”, have they been asleep whilst Greece has simply been bullied by the EU and when The Republic of Ireland twice voted the wrong way in a referendum and were forced to vote again courtesy of the EU. "Scotland as an EU member would be simply insignificant in comparison to Germany and France and we would simply follow or be told how to follow. "What the SNP are proposing for Scotland is a future of 'austerity Max". The very idea that it would be advantageous for us to leave the UK for a berth as a small but proud nation in the EU is foolish. We would be condemned to an austere damaging regime that would skip us of autonomy and and leave us open to penal austerity measures such as those imposed on other small nations. "The SNP do not like having a Tory Government in Westminster, neither do I. But at least we have Scottish cabinet ministers and Scotland is fully represented within the chambers of Westminster. "The EU has well over 700 MEPs at the moment, and Scotland gets only 6 – Scotland would have no huge influence what’s so ever. The SNP do not want real independence, they want 'plastic indy'. "They would rather be ruled from Frankfurt and Berlin rather than Edinburgh and London. Scotland’s Education system is failing, roads are crumbling and the NHS has seen better days – therefore they must revert to these diversionary tactics."  |
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Post by spitfire on Mar 13, 2017 22:18:38 GMT
Anyway, I expect my old pal Spit will have summat sensible to say about this 'cos he's closer to the vibes on that side of the wall, I'll look forward to reading his views. Greetings Old Friend, Yep - I'll post my views ... but you'll have to wait until tomorrow night. Mrs Spit requires my immediate services. I reckon my views here are well known regarding Wee Deranged, Obsessed, Whinging Nicola. The Scots I socialise with are probably more fed-up with her ubiquitous threats and whines than our English brothers. Looks like next week before Article 50 is triggered ... bring it on. Watch this space ........ Spit the Royalist and Unionist. |
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Post by Ratae on Mar 13, 2017 22:39:11 GMT
Hmmmm....even I ain't kidding myself that this England team, as good as they are, are unbeatable, Pete. I've witnessed far too many false dawns to believe that! We are so far unbeaten in this 6 nations, but I remember how lucky we were to get a win over the Taffs, we could, and arguably should, have lost that one. We weren't especially impressive against the Froggies either. Saturday was one of those days!!!! Everything we tried came off and Scotland had a bad day. I'm not playing down England's performance, but I need to see it like that more than once to be convinced that we are owt like the 20003 side. On the plus side, we did have our best side on the pitch and they played to their best, in act if Ben Youngs had played at least once this season for the Tigers at that standard, then I'd be a happy chappy....but he hasn't! Hopefully, next week the paddies will have their best side on the pitch and play well and so will we. Then, I'll be able to judge better. |
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Post by pierre on Mar 16, 2017 16:18:12 GMT
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Post by spitfire on Mar 16, 2017 19:35:12 GMT
Hi Guys, I relished reading this article about the exchanges between May and Wee Nicola ….. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-39293513Nicola tried to throw in another spanner to delay our Brexit progress, but got the response that surely even she must have expected. Apparently she has been fixated about Independence since she was 15, and has devoted her whole life to achieve this. She has an elderly (also politically frustrated) husband and has no children to distract her from her obsession. Independence is her whole raison d'être, so Brexit is merely a perceived “plausible” excuse to subject Scotland to a second acrimonious and divisive vote. When we exit the EU, surely she will know that Scotland must then apply to join the EU and comply with all the conditions imposed on new members. She will be aware that Spain (with its Catalan Independence movement) will almost certainly try to block Scottish membership. And then there’s the elephant in the room that Nicola will be forced to confront without wishful thinking. What will be Scotland’s adopted currency? I doubt that we would get a special opt-out. “But it’s our Pound too” Nicola whines … but who would underwrite the solvency of the Scottish Pound? The B of E says it won’t (when you’re out .. you’re out), and The Markets like nothing better than speculating on dodgy currencies. Not to mention the plummeting income from North Sea Gas. So the SNP fanatics actually want to sever themselves from a benign, tolerant UK union, and embrace the shackles of a corrupt, discredited, dying EU organisation. That doesn’t make sense to The Spits … nor will it make sense to the majority of Scots. Trust me … it just isn’t going to happen … dream-on Wee Nicola, Soapy Salmond and the rest of the SNP nutters. Our Queen has now given Royal Assent for Brexit … so let’s get on with it. Spit |
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Post by Ratae on Mar 16, 2017 19:55:01 GMT
Hmmm...it is my guess that if/when there is another indy referendum,the majority for staying in the union will be far higher than it was the last time. The reason for me thinking this, is simply that because the UK is now definitely exiting the EU, the case for Scotland going it alone does not make any economic sense even to those Scots who's hatred of England and the English normally colours their judgement of such things. Cutting off Scot's noses to spite Scots faces, will not seem a canny prospect to most canny Scots I suspect!  Spit's assessment in my opinion is spot on! |
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Post by spitfire on Mar 16, 2017 22:05:47 GMT
Hmmm...it is my guess that if/when there is another indy referendum,the majority for staying in the union will be far higher than it was the last time. Yep Rats, that's what I find when out-and-about in the streets. Most folk I associate with voted No to Independence, but obviously a significant minority in Scotland voted Yes. Like the Spits, many Scots have English relatives and friends, and don't feel any hatred whatsoever towards the English. Yep - I can't deny that a small minority of Scots harbour irrational anti-English resentment, but please accept that they are only a small minority. It's always the empty barrels that make the most noise. I reckon that many of the hitherto Yes voters would now vote against Independence, and greatly increase the majority for remaining in the UK. But this is now academic, because it just isn't going to happen now anyway ... and Wee Nicola will end her days unrequited and gathering her brows like gathering storm, Nursing her wrath to keep it warm. (Tam O'Shanter)  I showed Mrs Spit the image that Pierre posted above ... she's still giggling. I've copied it to post at another place .. at an appropriate time. I see England put us to the sword last time round. I really had high hopes that Scotland would win after their spirited wins over Wales and Ireland. Nonetheless, I'm hoping that England now beats Ireland, and breaks the All Blacks' record of consecutive wins ... honest.  Hope all is well with you Rats, Spit |
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Post by Geoff on Mar 17, 2017 6:59:30 GMT
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Post by jal on Mar 17, 2017 7:08:28 GMT
Nicola Sturgeon is another Angela Merkel in the making,trouble waiting to happen.
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Post by duyuthinkysaurus on Mar 17, 2017 15:56:49 GMT
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Post by Ratae on Mar 17, 2017 17:09:01 GMT
To be fair, there are only two things that I dislike about the woman! Her face. |
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Post by Ratae on Mar 18, 2017 18:58:43 GMT
Hmmmm....even I ain't kidding myself that this England team, as good as they are, are unbeatable, Pete. I've witnessed far too many false dawns to believe that! Oh look, is that a rising sun that I see over there? Nope, thought as much, just another false dawn! Oirland 13 - England 9  |
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